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It's me, Roz.

I got to talk to Patti Shemmel.

If you don't know Patti Shemmel is, you know the band Hole, one of the biggest rock bands

of the 90s, Courtney Love, I mean, Patti is major.

Patti has had quite the life.

She's got a book about her life that she wrote.

There's an incredible documentary about her life.

It's a story of redemption.

She has toured the world, honey.

She has played for thousands and thousands of people.

She has seen some shit.

And she's hilarious.

And so we talk, we pretty much stay on topic, I would say.

We definitely talk paranormal and stuff similar to that.

I had a great time talking to Patti and I hope you enjoy it.

I also have on Patreon every week full length episode of me learning about paranormal stuff.

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