Patti Smith: How True Crime Helped The “Godmother of Punk” Survive
DISGRACELAND
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🗓️ 7 April 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
The Lindbergh Baby Kidnapping, Helter Skelter, the .44 Caliber Killers, the crime and grime of 70s New York; Central Park, the Chelsea Hotel, 42nd St., rape, murder, and the influence of junkie poets, and thieving novelists, all of it compelled Patti Smith to create music “for the criminals”, and perhaps to also survive, when so many other artists did not.
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| 0:00.0 | Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis. |
| 0:15.7 | The story about Patty Smith is steeped in true crime. |
| 0:20.6 | Everything from the criminal influence of her artistic heroes, Jean-Gene and William S. Burroughs. |
| 0:25.6 | To the impression made upon her from her mother's obsession with America's first true crime of the century, the Lindbergh kidnapping, |
| 0:33.6 | to the influence of the Manson murders and New York City's 44 caliber killings that Patty lived through in late 70s, New York, to the influence of the Manson murders and New York City's 44 caliber killings that Patty lived through |
| 0:39.2 | in late 70s, New York, to the crime and grime of Central Park, the Chelsea Hotel, and 42nd Street, |
| 0:46.7 | rape and murder, all of it, just a shot away, as they say. But Patty Smith survived all of it to become one of the last century's great artists, |
| 0:57.9 | a great musician, someone who made great music. Unlike that music I played for you at the top of the |
| 1:04.7 | show, that wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from my Melotron called Falling from Chelsea, MK2. |
| 1:14.6 | I played you that loop because I can't afford the rights to one bad apple by the Osmans. |
| 1:21.5 | And why would I play you that specific slice of plastic sibling cheese could I afford it? |
| 1:31.4 | Because that was the number one song in America on February 10, 1971, and that was the day that Patty Smith first took the stage with more |
| 1:39.2 | than just words, with a guitarist at her side, and began building a previously unimagined bridge between the art world and rock and roll. |
| 1:49.0 | And she did it for the criminals. |
| 1:52.4 | On this episode, junkies, murderers, poets, playwrights, death, destruction, the danger of pursuing one's artistic calling, and how true crime |
| 2:04.0 | helped Patty Smith survive at all. I'm Jake punk and was inducted into the rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2007, she's much more than just an iconic rock star. |
| 2:43.0 | She's a literary luminary, a national book award winner, and the recipient of the Penn Literary Service Award. |
| 2:56.7 | She's been honored by the French Ministry of Culture and the Municipal Arts Society of New York, an organization that in 2004 awarded Patty Smith with their highest honor, the |
| 3:04.3 | Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Medal. |
| 3:07.3 | She's met the Pope. She accepted a Nobel Prize on behalf of and at the request of none |
| 3:12.8 | other than Bob Dylan. And her name rings true throughout the same universities and museums |
| 3:18.8 | that teach and celebrate the authors, poets, and artists, Louisa May Alcott, Arthur Rimbaud, and |
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