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See in store for T's and C's. Hello and welcome to the MMQB NFL podcast I'm Connor Ore that's Albert Breyer. Somewhere above me are the very nice hard-working people who are fixing our house. So don't mind the occasional saw and hammer-banging here, but Albert is in Foxborough which is an appropriate place for us to start

there's a lot of big games this weekend and this was nowhere close to the game of the weekend

but I do think it's the most

consequential the Patriots lost to the Saints 34 to nothing now I got a I got to find

my disturbing facts to make sure I have them all correct. But this is the worst shut out loss of the Belacheck era, the second worst shut out loss in Patriots history.

It's the first time in the entire history of the Patriots

organization that they lost back-to-back games by 34 more points, first time in the

Robert Kraft ownership era that they've lost two games by 30 points or more in a season.

Albert, I know that Kraft has made a career out of not making flashpoint decisions, not reacting, not, not you know be basically being the antithesis of

let's say the Woody Johnson's and some of the other owners in his division however

this feels like a massive flashpoint moment for the Patriots.

Bill Bellicheck said that they need to start over yesterday and we're five weeks into the

season.

I'll just put it on your plate.

Yeah. What's going on here? Well you know part of the

discussion here over the last week was a couple of the big losses they've had in the past and I don't know if you remember like the

2014 loss on the Monday night to Kansas City where Brady got benched and then in

2003 they cut lawyer Malloy and played the bills like a week and half later the

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