What's up everybody? Welcome into the next Pats podcast. I'm Phil Perry. We have a treat for you today. It's our good friend Patriots legend three-time Super Bowl champion James White hanging out with us, talking all things, Tray and Henderson.

My favorite pick of this year's draft for the New England Patriots. Yes, I know he's a running back. Yes, I know somewhere in the 30s for a running back. Generally speaking, a little bit early. Patriots got a great player in James White all the way back in the fourth round back in 2014. But to me, when you can make your quarterback's life a little bit easier by giving them that kind of weapon out of the back field,

hitting that easy button in terms of short throws that could potentially turn into really, really long gains or potentially turn into six points,

that to me is a great pick.

And that's exactly what Trayvian Henderson is. So it was great to pick James' brain on all things, not only Henderson, because he covered him as a member of the

Big Ten network, but also that role, that past catching back role specifically in Josh

McDaniel's offense as well. We had an opportunity to watch Henderson in the screen game. We also watched

him as a true running back, though. Elliot Wolf soon after the draft called Trayvian Henderson,

a three-down player. So it's very clear. They view him as somebody who can do a little bit of

everything at that running back position. And so we watch him taking handoffs from under center, from Will Howard at Ohio State,

and they're running duo with double teams at the line of scrimmage.

They're running power with pulling guards and fullbacks leading the way.

These are the kinds of plays that we're going to see again from this Josh McDaniels offense.

That's what I always associate with McDaniels is not only under center.

Of course, we know he could go in the shotgun and spread it out. In 07, they were really the

trailblazers as far as that goes in the pro game. But I'm thinking downhill runs. I'm looking

at guys like Micah Wenow and Morgan Moses, these massive bodies.

You know, even Will Campbell.

You know, he's a great athlete and he could play in any scheme.

But when he gets his hands on you and he drives those legs, he is moving people.

He is displacing bodies in the running game.

And so I think we're going to see more of that downhill type of stuff.

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