This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Thursday, June 21st, 2018.

I'm Caleb Brown. Was there a golden age of American patriotism?

And what does Patriot even mean?

And what did it mean over the course of the last few hundred years of American history?

Anthony Comegna is assistant editor for intellectual history at Libertarianism.org we spoke last week.

To hear Dave Chappelle tell it, he had no idea that the weakness of white people, the one fatal flaw in white people, was taking a

knee during the National Anthem and that was going to be the secret of revolution in America for other groups, black Americans, more specifically.

But the idea that this is that taking a knee during the national anthem during sporting events is really disrespectful, it's unpatriotic, is to me every bit as problematic as the national anthem itself, the actual words and text and what it's

but what it refers to and the idea that the national anthem is trotted out at every single sporting event you ever go to, and it is meant

to be presented as an anthem to the military. and when you stand for the national anthem you are

standing for the US military and that I don't know when that started it's I guess

it really as long as I can remember I don't really remember a time where that wasn't really the case

But I also understand that it is it is expected

to these major sporting events for you to stand up, no matter your thoughts about anything else,

but you need to stand up and show your respect.

And I like the United States, I like living here, but it seems like that is taking the very

notion of patriotism too far.

And when I asked you to come talk about this, I thought to myself, well, surely there was a golden era of patriotism when it was all good.

And you said, no, not really.

Yeah, yeah, no, not really.

And you know, the 20th century is not necessarily my wheelhouse,

but you're right that this notion that the Pledge of Allegiance or being patriotic, putting your hand over your heart

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