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The Interview

Patrick Suckling: Is Australia becoming a climate pariah?

The Interview

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.3538 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Since September 2019, bush fires in Australia have consumed 10 million hectares of land – an area almost the size of England. People have died, homes have been destroyed. The annual season of fires has begun earlier and lasted longer than ever before. Many see it as evidence of climate change, though the government says it’s not as simple as that. Condemned by its Pacific neighbours for inaction, does Australia’s former Ambassador for the Environment fear his nation is becoming a climate pariah?

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast from the BBC World Service.

0:03.6

This is Hard Talk with me, Sean Lay.

0:05.8

Thanks for downloading this edition of the programme, and I hope you enjoy it.

0:09.8

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Sean Lay.

0:13.3

So much smoke has been generated by Australia's bushfires.

0:17.0

It's created a plume the size of the continental United States.

0:20.9

NASA attracted it as it circumnavigated the globe.

0:24.2

Drought and record temperatures have created a giant tinderbox.

0:28.3

Yet Australia's government insists it's too simplistic to blame climate change.

0:32.7

Patrick Sutling spent three years as Australia's ambassador for the environment

0:37.1

and believes the threat is all too real.

0:40.1

But with politicians and voters still committed to exporting massive quantities of coal, was he just wasting his time?

0:47.5

Patrick Suckling, welcome to Hart Talk.

0:49.9

Just as some countries have a rainy season, some have a hurricane season, Australia has a bushfire season.

0:56.8

But how different would you say this one has been?

0:59.6

This one's been the worst we've had in New South Wales, certainly.

1:04.0

So it's been unprecedented.

1:06.5

It's been horrific.

1:07.6

It's been tragic.

1:08.7

It's been a summer of hell.

1:10.5

I would say, though, up front, taking the opportunity to say how heartened we've all been

1:15.6

by the extraordinary response and support we've had around the world for this tragic time.

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