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You gotta come to me empty handed. I said no gifts, your presence is presence enough,

and I already had too much stuff, so how do you dare to survey me?

Welcome to I said no gifts. I'm Bridger Weinerger. We're here in the backyard. I'm really going to

assume at this point that my co-host will not be showing up, and that's fine. I'm in control.

We're having an incredible time on the podcast already. If I hear a peep out of you,

I'm gonna freak out. I'll shut down the podcast, so just be quiet. Let's get into it. I love

today's guest. I really love him. It's Patrick Mcdonald. Hi Bridger. Patrick, welcome to I said no gifts.

Thank you for having me. I'm thrilled. What's the most dramatic thing that's ever happened to you?

The most traumatic thing? Don't answer that. I just like the idea of starting a podcast on that note.

Just immediately put the guest. Just immediately. So let's go there. I feel like that is so many

people's real way to start podcasts and interviews. Oh my god, I can't imagine. I know, and I think

the guest response, too, is to dump and then to just feel empty for the rest of the. Then you get

into the frivolous stuff. I think that's maybe a fun way to go. I would freeze up and I would probably

just walk out. Yeah. I don't think that I'm capable. You would have to have me on the podcast for

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