Patrick Maguire & Gabriel Pogrund | Inside Keir Starmer’s Rise

Jimmy's Jobs of the Future

Boxlight Creative Studio

Technology, Business, Careers

5 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Want your own Brand or Business Podcast? Try out our NEW Podcast Calculator: https://www.boxlight.io/ Kickstart your career and find a job that matters at https://www.jobsthatmatter.uk 🔥 Inside Keir Starmer’s Rise: Power, Politics & The Labour Party In this explosive episode of Jimmy’s Jobs of the Future, political insiders Patrick Maguire and Gabriel Pogrund take us behind the scenes of Keir Starmer’s rise to power. Based on their new book Get In, they reveal the untold story of how Starmer seized control of the Labour Party, the power players pulling the strings, and the battles shaping the party’s future. From Morgan McSweeney’s shadow influence to Starmer’s real economic vision, this episode uncovers the hidden forces that will decide the future of British politics. If you want to know who really runs Labour, how Starmer won power, and what happens next—this is the episode to watch. 🔹 Timestamps – Click to Jump In 👇 00:00 Intro 01:23 Meet the Authors: Patrick Maguire & Gabriel Pogrund 02:20 The Many Faces of Keir Starmer – What Does He Stand For? 03:30 Starmer’s Ideology – A Pragmatist or a True Believer? 06:33 How Starmer’s Early Career Shaped His Leadership Style 13:24 Morgan McSweeney’s Hidden Influence on Starmer’s Success 17:29 Labour Together & The Business Interests Shaping Policy 30:32 Why Labour Is Desperate to Win Over Big Business 35:27 What Labour Really Thinks About the Economy 42:27 The Business Leaders Secretly Backing Labour 43:47 Is Labour Actually Ready for Government? 46:29 Starmer’s Leadership: Strengths, Weaknesses & Power Moves 50:40 What Really Drives Keir Starmer? 01:01:08 Angela Rayner & The Internal Labour Power Struggles 01:07:14 What’s Next for Labour & Starmer’s 2024 Strategy 01:13:47 How to Break Into Political Journalism 01:18:03 Labour’s Rising Stars – Who to Watch Next ********** Follow us on socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jimmysjobs Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jimmysjobsofthefuture Twitter / X: https://www.twitter.com/JimmyM Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-mcloughlin-obe/ Want to come on the show? [email protected] Sponsor the show or Partner with us: [email protected] Credits: Host / Exec Producer: Jimmy McLoughlin OBE Producer: Sunny Winter Editor: Sunny Winter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future. Today I'm joined by Patrick McGuire and Gabriel Pogrund at the Times.
0:06.1	They have just written the book on Kier-Starma and how he turned the Labour Party from its worst electoral defeat into one of its biggest ever victories last year.
0:18.3	It's a fascinating read, how the party turned itself around, all the different
0:22.5	processes that they went through to do that, and how they use business as a core component
0:27.7	of that. Reaching out to business was seen as one of the key prioritised to kind of detoxify
0:33.5	the Labour brand. They talk in the book about how Ed Miliband was initially moved from the
0:38.4	shadow business secretary. And it's a really interesting read on lots of different levels.
0:45.1	And as I was sitting there thinking a lot about how the Conservative Party probably needs to
0:49.7	read the book to understand how to reform itself in the new era of politics. And we also talk a
0:57.5	little bit to Patrick and Gabe about their jobs at the times and where they see the future
1:02.2	of Labor going and why they've had such a rocky start to their first couple of hundred days
1:09.1	in power.
1:12.5	So, on to today's episode.
1:18.3	Patrick Gay, welcome to Jimmy's Jobs of the Future.
1:22.2	Congratulations on a great book, Get In.
1:24.3	Where did the name come from?
1:33.3	We were in the offices of our publisher, Penguin, about 14, 15 months ago now, late 2023, and we wrote a book about the Corbyn Project and its Declin Fulcalfour Left Out.
1:39.2	And we wanted it to be not necessarily implying that they were a sequel.
1:43.7	You know, it's not left out to
1:44.9	electric booglu but something that had the same feeling to it and we did suggest writing because
1:50.0	this is about the right of the labour party taking back control but we were told that no normal
1:55.1	person is going to understand that distinction and because of kirstarmer's love of football because
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Boxlight Creative Studio, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Boxlight Creative Studio and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.