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I'm talking to my friend John Smirak.

John, listen, when we're having this larger conversation about, you know,

reality and good and evil, I think it needs to be said that we in America, and I wrote about

this in my book, if you can keep it, we have been traditionally promoting what we call freedom

and self-government.

So we're not promoting American Empire.

We're promoting the opposite of that in a way.

Freedom, the idea that people can govern themselves.

And we want others around the world to catch this idea that self-government, ultimately on a biblical model that exalts

virtue, that condemns corruption. This is the American blessing. It's this gift that God gave us

through our founders and that we've been able

to live with for nearly two and a half centuries. It's been our goal theoretically. I would say

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