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I'm talking to my friend John's, Mirac, John, listen, when we're having this larger conversation

about, you know, reality and good and evil, I think it needs to be said that we in America,

and I wrote about this in my book, if you can keep it, we have been traditionally promoting

what we call freedom and self-government. So we're not promoting American empire.

We're promoting the opposite of that in a way, freedom, the idea that people can govern

themselves, and we want others around the world to catch this idea that that self-government

ultimately on a biblical model that exalts virtue, that condemns corruption.

This is the American blessing. It's this gift that God gave us through our founders,

and that we've been able to live with for nearly two and a half centuries. It's been our goal

theoretically. I would say it's been our mandate from God to spread this idea around the world.

Spread it peacefully by persuasion.

Obviously.

For example, that's not so obvious. The whole me-upcom thing was, we're going to make you free.

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