Folks, welcome back. This is our two, the Eric Metaxis show. We're talking about whether this election was on the up and up.

I'm speaking with Patrick Byrne, former CEO of Overstock.com.

So he's a really wealthy guy.

He doesn't need to sell books.

Nonetheless.

Better to be lucky than smart, Eric.

Nonetheless, the deep rig is the title of the book, How Election Fraud costs Donald J. Trump, the White House, by a man who did not vote for him. You didn't vote for Trump, but you're a patriot. Let me ask you, Patrick, because I love to know people's stories. Why is it that you care about your country? There's so many people that would not put themselves out there.

They wouldn't spend their time, their very valuable time in your case, pursuing something like this.

Well, that's very generous of you to say and ask. First of all, so I had this interesting thing

happened to me in life where just as I got out of college, I turned

out to have cancer. And I basically spent my 20s having cancer a few times and convalescing and

having cancer and convalescing. So I did three times and I convalesce three times. And what do you do

when you were 20 in your 20s and that's what you're doing in your life. Well, I, there's not much,

I couldn't have held a job or anything. So I ended up doing a PhD in philosophy at Stanford as all

this was going on. And I was also something called a Marshall Scholar to England for a couple of years.

And I became, I really spent that time learning the intellectual history of the U.S. Constitution,

is how I would put it.

Political philosophy ended up being my field, political philosophy, and jurisprudence.

And to me, that's as close as a religion I have. I was raised religion, religious. I kind of

wandered off my own. Let me guess, with a name like Patrick Byrne, what is that Jewish?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Lonsman, sure.

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