We are podcasting now and I am podcasting with one of my oldest Twitter pals, which is

a thing that I say in my life and frequently I will meet one of my Twitter pals or when

we used to do Conan shows and one of my Twitter pals would come to town and see it. I would have

to say I need a ticket for one of my Twitter pals and I took it and like a long stemmed red rose,

right? That's right. That's right. Yes. And a horse drawn carriage to pick them up at the airport.

But I'm talking to the very funny and incredibly talented writer, Patricia Lockwood.

Hello. Hello. Thank you for having me. How long have you been doing this

podcast? I think this is the end where they call it a season, but I don't know what that means.

Because the season, it's like a scene of podcasting. Yes, yes. But I guess this is kind of the end

of the second year of them. Wow. Yeah. I try not to know anything about podcasts. I hate

podcasts as a genre and as a pastime. Good to go on into this. Yeah. No, I did this to challenge

myself. I like to challenge myself in different ways over this my pandemic year. So I consider

this a challenge. But I've never I've never listened to one after I've done it. I've never listened

to anyone else's podcast. So I feel I'm I well, you know, I honestly, I don't give a shit about

anybody I talk to virtually or in real life. So I mean, you're sparking up the wrong tree. If you

expect to care, I'd meet a care. Yeah. Yeah. I never got the rose, I guess. I never came out to

L.A. To the cone in taping. Yeah. Your loss. Because they're you did you did blurb my book,

though. And you did call me your friend in the blurb, which was so touching and heartfelt. And I

was like, God, the blurbs that you get from comedians are so different than the blurbs you get

from actual writers. First of all, they're on time. They're like, oh, really? Oh, really? Oh,

wow. They read the books and then they say, really touching things to you. Like this person is my

friend, whether or not you feel that way, they will say, yeah. And I think and I also talked to

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