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Stadio: A Football Podcast

Patreon sampler: The Spectre of Pep, the Premier League and Liverpool, with Jon Mackenzie and Neil Atkinson

Stadio: A Football Podcast

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Bundesliga, Serie A, Football, World Cup, La Liga, Soccer, Uefa, Manchester United, Arsenal, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Premier League, Wsl, Champions League, Sports, Fifa

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

For everyone on the free feed, we have two sections taken from recent Patreon podcasts for you to check out!

Up first, Jon Mackenzie from Tifo and the Athletic joins for a more tactical chat about this season and his forthcoming book, ‘The Spectre of Pep: How Guardiola Haunts Modern Football Tactics’. Recorded a week or so before Andoni Iraola was announced as Liverpool manager, the full episode chat's about the brilliance of his coaching and much more.

Part two is a section where Neil Atkinson, from The Anfield Wrap, joins to chat about Liverpool's tricky season and the departure of Arne Slot (29:32). The full episode features more chat about Iraola's arrival and some general Premier League chat.

Follow Jon on Instagram and Bluesky and you can pre-order the book here.

Follow Neil on Bluesky, check out The Anfield Wrap here and his book is available here.

Also, another shout for Musa’s interview with Zohran Mamdani for GQ here. Tickets for our July live show, with Nish Kumar at the Southbank Centre, are available here.

For more podcasts, ad-free and in full, plus access to the Stadio Social Club and much more, you can become a Stadio member by signing up at patreon.com/stadio.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, welcome back to Stadio. I'm Ryan.

0:07.0

Hi everyone, welcome back to Stadio.

0:24.6

I'm Ryan.

0:25.6

No Musa here because we just got an episode today for everyone listening on the free feed.

0:30.9

So yesterday on Patreon, we had Neil Atkinson from the Amfield Rap,

0:34.2

joined Musa and I to talk a little bit about Liverpool season,

0:37.7

Anaslott's departure, and Andoni Irola's arrival at Liverpool.

0:42.0

Last week, we had a chat with John McKenzie from Tifo and the Athletic, also a little bit about

0:46.5

Iriola, about Pep, his departure, also some tactical stuff, and also his new book, which

0:52.2

you can pre-order now.

0:58.3

So we thought that we put a section of each of those shows together for you on the free feed to give you a bit of a taster as to what's going on on the Patreon episodes.

1:04.1

If you want to go and sign up and listen to all of the episodes,

1:06.6

ad-free and in full, including three episodes a week, add free and full through the World Cup.

1:12.7

You go to patreon.com forward slash stadio.

1:15.4

The support would be much appreciated.

1:17.8

You can sign up as a podcast member where you just get the podcast or you can sign up as a

1:21.8

Stadio Social Club member where you get all the podcasts plus access to the Stadio Social Club

1:26.2

Discord.

1:26.9

So we're going to get straight into it and first of all, we're going to get into part of our chat with John McKenzie from Tifo and the Athletic. We're delighted to welcome to Stadio making his debut, the one and only, John McKenzie from Tifo and the Athletic. How are you, mate? Hello. How are you? Yeah, good thanks.

2:00.9

He's done. He's here. John's joining us. He's too humble to say. He's joining us because he's written a brilliant book, The Spectre of PEP, about PEP Guardiola, and it is currently blowing my mind. And I want to say that to your face, John, because although this is audio, look we've read a lot football books between us

2:01.8

Ryan and I

2:02.5

it's a remarkable piece of that to your face, John, because although this is audio, look, we've read a lot of football books

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