Hey, this is Paris. I hope you enjoyed the Data Vampire series that we did back in October. It's had a

fantastic response. And for that series, I spoke to a bunch of experts. And now we're releasing the

full-length versions of those interviews for our supporters over on patreon.com. And I wanted to give you a

preview of what those interviews sound like. So you can consider whether to go to patreon.com

slash tech won't save us, become a supporter yourself, so you can learn even more about the

important topics that we dug into in that special series. So enjoy this clip from my interview

with Aurora Gomez Delgado. Other than the data centers in Madrid and Barcelona, they sort of go to these rural areas where they know there's not a lot of jobs for people.

They know there's not a lot of economic opportunity and say, if you let us build this major data center here, then we'll be able to give you jobs and pay taxes and all these sorts of things to kind of take advantage of the

economic desperation in those places, I guess.

There is always this problem with the business, the same for data centers or any kind

of capitalism business, is that they go and they have this promise of jobs.

The local majors always want to give jobs to their citizens

because it's the main problem for all of them.

The problem is the local majors always think in four years in advance

because we have the elections only in four years.

They never think about how the next generation is going to be suffering, the lack of

resource, the lack of environmental resources, or also the heat or the lack of water. So they

believe this promise. They say, okay, come here, we change our law. We also give you,

sometimes they give the territory, so you can build everything. So they are change our law. We also give you, sometimes they give the territory so you can build

everything. So they are changing the law so they can go there. Sometimes it's different in different

parts of the world because, you know, it's the same problem, the same narrative, the same companies.

But maybe in Spain we are more focusing in water, in island are more focusing in energy.

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