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🗓️ 26 June 2025
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We had a long, thoughtful discussion about where rap is as a genre right now. For the full convo you'll have to sign up for the Patreon. We appreciate y'all.
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0:09.9 | I think it was John sent us the Billboard tweet that there were 14 rap albums in the top |
0:17.7 | Billboard Top 100, which is the lowest number in like 20 something years 10 years ago it was 47 and i think the |
0:26.2 | even crazier thing about it being 14 albums only three of them came out this year uh which led to you know |
0:33.6 | the four of us having a conversation in the group chat about, first of all, how sad that is. |
0:39.5 | And then second of all, is this the cyclical thing that we've seen in rap music our whole lives? |
0:45.7 | Or is this rap transitioning to a place that like jazz or other serious art forms that had a lot of energy behind them have gone where it becomes |
0:56.0 | almost more of an academic thing that is more of an old person thing than like it's not |
1:02.3 | kids doing saxophone battles in the hallways of high schools and shit anymore obviously. |
1:06.1 | So what, you know, what do you what do you all think about it and, and, you know, what are your, what are your thoughts? Yeah. Um, you know, what do you, what do you all think about it? And, and, you know, what are your, what are your thoughts? |
1:13.4 | Yeah. You know, going back to the whole cyclical thing, you know, that you mentioned, like, we've seen rap habits low, so habits have its ups and downs, right? |
1:21.1 | And the thing is, throughout rap history, we always saw, like, shifts happen, right? Like, we would see a a rapper come along and like, you know, kind of kill the old guard and bring it like the new guard. |
1:32.5 | Like we saw Rakim, you know, kill, kill the old school. |
1:35.3 | We saw like DMX kill the shiny suit era. |
1:37.7 | We saw like, you know, no limit cash money, crunk, the crunk movement, the trap movement. We saw that like kind of ushering the era of the South's dominance, |
1:45.3 | shifting that from New York's dominance. |
1:47.4 | So it's something that always happens in rap. |
1:50.8 | Like we saw Kanye and the blog era rappers. |
1:53.3 | They shipped the shit from like the gangster rap to like the non-tuff guy rap too, right? |
1:58.0 | So it's something that that frequently always happens where, you know, we have |
2:01.5 | these lows and some new blood comes in, breathe some new life into the genre, and the genre shifts |
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