Patreon Bonus #24 - The Most Punchable Dicks of the '80s
'80s All Over
Scott Weinberg and Drew McWeeny
4.7 • 805 Ratings
🗓️ 27 February 2018
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Some of cinema's most sneeringest, preeningest, smarmiest, most-punchable-in-the-biggus-dickusest villains came straight out of the '80s, and Drew and Scott came together to champion the actors who brought them to life, and to revel in just how lovably hatable these characters are.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, running welcome to a very special bonus episode of 80's all over. I'm Drew McQueenie and as always I'm joined by my co-host, live from Philadelphia, Scott Weinberg. Hey, this is Scott Weinberg from Philadelphia, home of the world champion, Philadelphia Eagles. And we are here with a very special bonus episode for our loyal Patreon subscribers. We want to thank everybody who supports us financially or with reviews or with comments on Twitter, any Facebook recommendations when people say, hey, recommend me some podcasts. I can't listen to how to just get made all day, and you come out and go, 80s all over is one of eight that are great. We see that, and we appreciate it every time. Thank you. It really does help, guys. In fact, one of you came up with the loose idea for today's episode. We're still fine tuning it. You're gonna hear some of that here on the air, |
| 1:05.3 | but we liked it enough that we wanted to take it and run with it today. And it all came about because of the conversation we had in the December 1982 episode about the film Kiss Me Goodbye with James Con, Sally Field, and Jeff Bridges, in which I asserted that it may be the single most punchable performance that we've watched so far. I really do find James Conn almost unwatchably offensive in that film. |
| 1:28.0 | It's bad. Yeah, he is, and it's weird because you could see what they're going for. Like he said, they want him to be like a Han Solo type rascal and you know, and it just, that's not what he does. Right. Drew came up with the, he said, let's, Let's need to come up with a list of, I think his phrase was, Puntrable Dicks. And's need to come up with a list of I think his phrase was punchable dicks and he said come up with a list of punchable dicks and I I Kind of took that a little bit different and as we go through our lists You'll see what I mean Drew came up with specific actors or characters that he wanted to punch Whereas I thought mainly of character actors who are particularly particularly well known for playing Dix. So perfect example, you go first because I have a feeling if we go just alphabetically by A, we both probably have one guy on our list. Yeah, yeah. These are not in any kind of ranked order at all. I just jot it down 10 good names. So to me, one of the most punchable Dix is got to be Lance Hanrickson in near dark. That's a really good choice. That's not where I thought you were going, but yeah. The great thing about him is that he's not just, he's got kind of an intense glower. So he does play a dick really well. But thanks to James Cameron, it's a mother good director, Catherine Bigelow and more. He's interesting when he's playing kind of a good guy too. Anything else on the top of your head where he's played like a rotten? No, and that one near dark is so great because that is that entire family seems dedicated to For those of you haven't seen the film. It's an early Catherine Bigelow movie about a group of roaming vampires who created sort of a loose family and One of the girls in the family meets a guy who she wants to maybe recruit or maybe eat. And one of the big set pieces in that film is when they take over a redneck bar, lock the doors and then just have their way with them. What's great about it is that family seems to relish the fact that nobody can do anything to them. So they all seem to like really get off on being assholes in that room. I love that Catherine Bigelow and the screenplay by Eric Redd. I love that the romanticization, the romanticism of vampires was kind of invoked again, you know, with badminton's Dracula and that kind of stately sexy vampire. And to me, near dark feels like a kick to the door saying they're also just feral monsters too. And that's why I think near dark is probably my favorite vampire movie. I absolutely love it. And Lance Hendrickson and the late great Bill Paxton, also an amazing dick in this movie, but such a entertain such a ridiculously entertaining dick that it's remarkable. All right, Drew, what do you got? I'm gonna go with a guy who, |
| 4:06.4 | I'm not a fan of this guy in general, |
| 4:08.2 | but there was one film where he got hold |
| 4:10.6 | of a piece of great writing, |
| 4:12.4 | an adaptation of a piece of great writing, I should say. |
| 4:15.0 | And in the way he played it, |
| 4:17.0 | he revealed that he might be truly one of the uber assholes. |
| 4:21.7 | James Belushi in about last night. |
| 4:24.3 | Now, that's interesting. Would not have thought of that. Haven't seen it in many decades. Explain to me why? Well, Bernie Licko, the character that he's playing in the original onstage version of a David Mammoth play, sexual perversity in Chicago. Bernie Licko was meant to be what toxic masculinity is incarnate. And he's meant to be that terrible voice in his friends ear constantly suggesting the worst and his monologues are delightful, but they're also misogynistic and horrifying and it kind of is a preamble to that Neil Le Butte school of misogyny theater with Neil the butte you never get the reputation you get the feeling Neil Le Butte actually really likes all the stuff that comes out of his characters. I get to feeling David Mammott did not in the movie about last night the problem is they cast Baluci and they never told him your guys not right. So Baluci's playing it like he is the hero of the film and every piece of advice he gives us solid gold and it's directed that way too. So the movie really puts Bernie let go as you should listen to this guy. He's hilarious and awesome. |
| 5:25.8 | That's interesting. |
| 5:26.7 | I will think about that when I revisit the film. I didn't think much of it as a kid, but it's one of those movies that like, it's about adults for adults. So maybe as a kid, the meat of that movie would have gone over my head, but I do look forward to revisiting about last night. You ever see the remake? |
| 5:42.5 | I did. |
| 5:43.5 | And it's funny, Kevin Hart plays the role there and they handle it correctly where I really |
| 5:48.1 | feel like that movie spends a lot of time diffusing what that character says and what he does and showing how there is a human being underneath that who's learning. I think the remake actually did a better job with that character and I love Kevin Hart. So maybe I will watch that. My next dick is kind of a ultimately punchable dick. I'm hesitant to even bring up one particular movie, but I will. Let's just take a moment to bask in the dickness of Michael Ironside. All right, just here here, just a few scanners, visiting hours, space hunter extreme prejudice and it's 90 But of course Richter in total recall even when he plays ostensibly nice guys I'm not sure I buy it Yeah, he's just he's just got that face, you know, I'm it's like When your dad comes home from a long day at work and and looks really miserable. So you just kind of keep your mouth shut and you realize, oh no, he just always looks like that. Like he just has a grumpy demeanor and I bet you he's a sweetheart, but man, he is an intense looking guy and it's like use what God gave you. And if you got that voice and that those eyes and that glower, use it. And he is a great villain slash dick slash what you call it, what you will. I'm going to go ahead and give it to our Z entry for this, not alphabetical look at assholes from the 80s. I'm going to go ahead and go straight to Billy's obca. Oh good. All right. Knock one off my list. There's a reason that Zobka is held up as sort of the prototypical 80s dick. Exactly. And Drew, there are so many. If you were to like go through all the teen movies from the 80s, the Billy Zabka character, the look was almost iconic. He not only looked exactly like that character, but he embodied a certain version of it. There's, I think the other great example |
| 7:45.0 | would be James Spader and pretty in pink, but I think what Zobka does so perfectly is, Zobka doesn't have the class thing going on. You get the feeling when James Spader is a dick, it's because James Spader thinks he's better than you. You get the feeling when Billy Zobka's being a dick. It's just because Billy Zobka's a dick deep down in his DNA can't help it. He is born to be that guy. |
| 8:06.0 | Yeah, I think he's underrated as an actor because- |
| 8:08.8 | Boy, do too. |
| 8:09.3 | He- It's just because Billy's ob because a dick deep down in his DNA and can't help it. He is born to be that guy. |
| 8:06.0 | Yeah, I think he's underrated as an actor because he got that look. He's got the look, the waspie, snowy, snooty look, but he's really good in the karate kid at playing that. Oh, knowing how, knowing how to play it is above and beyond how you look, you know, he it helps that he and Martin Cove in that movie feed off of each other and |
| 8:26.4 | Martin Cove is such a feed off of each other. |
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