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let's get started. Welcome back, Laura Kirby, to the Autism, ADHD podcast.

Thank you very much for having me. It's lovely to be back.

I'm so glad that you're back. And I'm going to introduce you really quick.

So Laura Kirby is a neurodivergent adult, parent, and professional. She has worked within the

specialist education sector for over 21 years and is the

founder of positive assessment supports in training and co-founder of Kite Therapeutic Learning Services.

Laura has a special interest in pathological demand avoidance and is the author of the book,

The Educators Experience of Pathological Demand Avoidance, which is published by Jessica Kingsley

publishing and illustrated by Eliza Fricker.

She is now writing a guide for the late diagnosed women with ADHD and the teens guide to TPDA.

That's correct. In fact, I just handed in the teens book yesterday. I am so excited. I cannot

wait until it's published. It has been an incredibly difficult book to write, but I can talk about

that later, or another time

even. I would love to have you back to talk about it. It's quite a different writing experience

to writing the educator's experience, actually. Oh, all right. Very good. Yes, but we got there in the end.

That's what matters. You get there and send. So today we're going to talk

about your experience as an educator and what PDA looks like in the classroom. So for those

who were unable to catch our episode, we've done together in the past on PDA,

definitely recommend going back and checking it out.

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