Hey everybody it's Robert F. Kennedy Jr. here and this is the second in our series, a past of peace. I've been very, very much looking forward to this probably more than any of my podcasts ever because I have such enormous respect for the two people who are

guests and for their willingness to actually come together and talk about the issue, how we achieve a path to peace in the

Mideast. Both of them have shown extraordinary courage, but also thoughtfulness and a very, very high regard for truth and for

history and trying to do what my uncle President Kennedy said, which if you want to have peace,

that you better be able to put yourself in the shoes of your adversary and understand their worldview.

And what we see in the Mideast today is a, as much as anything, it's a clash of narratives and part of the path to be is being able to

deconstruct those narratives to find a commonly agreed on facts and then trying to understand how we can build

peace based upon those kind of indisputable facts and both of these gas coming from

different backgrounds, very different backgrounds of this conflict have spent their

lifetimes and their careers doing exactly that.

John Aziz is a British Palestinian writer, musician, and peace advocate with a focus on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

His work has appeared in the Atlantic and foreign policy, the dispatch, and many, many others.

He is currently working on a book chronicling the

modern and ancient history of Palestine and the intertwining histories of the

Jewish and Palestinian people. Aynet Wolf, Dr. Aynet Wolf, is a leading thinker on Israel Zionism, foreign policy and education.

She was a member of the Israeli parliament from 2010 to 2013 where she served as chair of the

Education Committee and a member of the Influential Foreign Affairs and Defense

Committee born and raised in Israel Dr. Wilf served as an intelligence officer in the Israeli defense forces,

a foreign policy advisor to the vice, and prime minister, Chimon Peres,

and a strategic consultant with Mackenzie.

Dr. Wilf has a BA from Harvard, an MBA from Inc.

in France, and a PhD in political Science from the University of Cambridge.

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