Hello this is Paulus Abilita this is Troydini this is Kevin Phillips this is your club and you are listening to the big interview with Graham Hunter

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and we'll bring you joy. Pat Nevin was a unique footballer and is now a thoughtful reflective fun media commentator. He's also a music obsessive and a man in

possession of the best Dugruvie anecdote ever. And if you don't know who Dugruvie

was, I'm coming after you. So you can guess it was only a matter of time until he joined us as a guest on the big interview.

We spent a brilliant couple of hours in Pat's company covering a great deal. Why John Terry is misunderstood,

in certain senses at least, how good Eden Hazard can become, why he hasn't already,

why the Irish sports media is on another level altogether, and how Pat stood up to racists on the

terraces during his career.

This interview was recorded in the function room of an outstanding Edinburgh pub.

Thanks to Sean and all the staff of the St Andrews Brewing Company at a house in Broughton Street

Lane in Edinburgh, which set the perfect

indy tone for a memorable big interview. I was startled to hear a perspective that I don't have as much grip on but you talked about a guy who has obviously got you transfixed and he's now moved into management.

He talks about John Terry.

And in my small number of interactions with him one on one.

I've seen players around the Chelsea training ground.

It's just John.

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