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All right, 334 Carden Show, Big Mac, that's Chris McBonagull.

Obviously, the Giants are still making news as the shockwaves of John Horvall coming here

are still keeping giant fans very, very happy. Pat Leonard is as good as he gets when it comes to covering on not just the Giants, but the NFL. Daily News, I think, still, right? That's right, Craig. So the old-school paper guy. You like that. Any of a good time here. Good to see you, pal. How are you been? No, doing very well.

Thanks for having me in this studio. Yeah, the voice of record when it comes to what's going on with the New York Giants. And there's a lot of very good reporters. I love the fact you guys are battling right now. Because if I could get involved in other people's fights, that's like my sweet spot. Well, Craig, the interesting part of that is one of many things I've heard is John Harbaugh has already noticed that, right? He's coming to New York. He's obviously a different beast. And even during his courtship, right, it was pretty loud. Right. And some of it came from his side, but a lot of it didn't. Right. And so I think one thing he's determined, like, the most interesting and important thing for the Giants right now is they have a leader of men now, pulling the whole building in the right direction in the same direction. Right. And he's going to give them some credibility. But along with that means getting his hands around the message, right? And the message has to do with leaks. Where's it coming from? So let me stop you there. You put something out. I think it was on Twitter today this morning, which is why I had the guys reach out to you. I was fired up. Yeah. And it seemed like you were pissed on a lot of levels. We'll get to all of them. That I never recognized, I guess I should have, that the giants notoriously were a leaky ship from a content standpoint.

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