All right, so we're in a series called The Gifts of Jesus.

We're taking these from Ephesians 4, we're on the 4th one.

Let me just read it to you, verse 11, and he himself gave some to be apostles, some

prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers.

Those are the five.

Some people put the last two together.

The reason is because the word some is in front of only four times in there.

Some apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers.

So there are some people who put those four, the only four, and they put pastors and teachers

together.

Can I just make a little point about this because I'm always trying to train us in

this.

If you want to put those together, I don't mind.

I don't mind, okay?

You don't need to write me a seven page email on why theologically they go together.

I'm fine if you believe that, okay?

One day we're going to get to heaven and we'll find out you were wrong, but it's okay.

All right.

Or I'll find out I was wrong.

It doesn't matter.

The body of Christ needs to stop arguing and come together and win the world of Jesus.

So if you want to put those together, it's okay.

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