Hey everyone, welcome once again to the Conversations That Matter Podcast.

I am your host, John Harris, and with a special guest.

We haven't had Michael Clary on before, my pastor Michael Cl Clary but he has a website if those who are interested want to check out more of his stuff after our interview

It's D Michael Clary.com and if you go there you also find a link for his book God's Good Design and it's a good book on biblical theology on issues related to sexuality and of course we need a lot of

resources like that with all the bad resources that are out there today but but

pastor Clary is a pastor at Christ the King Church in Cincinnati, a Southern Baptist

Church and he's also running for Vice President of the Southern Baptist Convention.

So that's exciting.

So thank you for coming on the podcast

and being willing to talk to us about singleness,

but also maybe a little bit about SBC stuff.

Yeah, man, thanks for having me on.

It's a pleasure to talk to you, John.

Thank you.

So first, let's do the politics thing.

So you're running, I guess with Jared Moore, who's going to be running for president

of the Southern Baptist Convention and you know maybe

give us the stump speech what are you running on what do you hope to accomplish in the

SBC? Yeah I've been concerned for a while watching the direction of the

denomination how things are going and sort of I've been planting my church and

pasturing and you know trying to just be focused on my local work here but having an eye to the direction of the convention and I've just been really alarmed by some of the things that I've seen that I've

that I know you've reported on some of this in the past and some other friends of

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