Pastor T.L. Barrett’s Gospel
Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond
Pushkin Industries
4.5 • 4.3K Ratings
🗓️ 2 November 2021
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Pastor T.L. Barrett has been known on Chicago’s South side as a religious and community leader for 50 years. But it wasn’t until recently that people started to uncover Barrett’s trove of gospel music. In the 1970s, Barrett began making recordings of the music performed in his church. These were sermons he’d turn into songs that sat around for years until rappers started sampling them in the last decade. People like Kanye West, T.I., DJ Khalid, Alicia Keys. All this recent attention on Pastor T.L. Barrett has culminated in a new box set from the Numero Group called “I Should Wear A Crown."
On today's episode Justin Richmond talks to Pastor Barrett about his distant relation to the Reverend C.L. Franklin and of course his daughter, the great Aretha Franklin. Pastor Barrett also talks about how he went from a high school dropout to a community leader. Plus what it was like for him to have his music discovered after decades.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushing. |
| 0:13.0 | Pastroteo Barrett's been known on Chicago's South Side as a religious and community leader |
| 0:17.4 | for 50 years. |
| 0:19.4 | It wasn't until recently that people started to uncover Barrett's trove of gospel music. |
| 0:35.6 | In the 1970s, Barrett began making recordings of the music performed in his church. |
| 0:40.8 | These were sermons he'd turned into songs that sat around for years until rappers started |
| 0:45.2 | sampling them in the last decade. |
| 0:47.9 | People like Kanye West, TI, DJ Khaled, Alicia Keys, his song Nobody Knows Was Even Used |
| 0:54.6 | in a Popular Nike Commercialist Death Korean Couple of Years ago. |
| 0:58.8 | All this recent attention on Pastroteo Barrett has culminated in a new box set from the |
| 1:03.1 | numerous groups called I Should Wear A Crown. |
| 1:06.5 | 39 tracks of his songs and sermons throughout the years. |
| 1:10.9 | You'll notice in my conversation with Teo Barrett that he's a pastor through and through. |
| 1:15.9 | He can't help but preach. |
| 1:17.8 | And in this episode, you'll hear a lot of his trademark aphorisms. |
| 1:22.2 | You'll also hear about his distant relation to the Reverend Seal Franklin and of course |
| 1:25.5 | his daughter, the great Aretha Franklin. |
| 1:28.5 | Pastrote Barrett and I also talk about how he went from a high school dropout to a community |
| 1:32.4 | leader. |
| 1:33.4 | Plus, what it was like for him to have his music discovered so publicly after decades. |
| 1:39.2 | This is Broken Record, Liner Notes for the Digital Age. |
| 1:44.7 | I'm Justin Richman. |
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