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True Crime with Kendall Rae

Pastor Kills “Sister-Wife” After She Gave Birth to Their Baby: The Case of Marie Carlson

True Crime with Kendall Rae

Mile Higher Media & Audioboom Studios

True Crime, Society & Culture, History

4.65K Ratings

🗓️ 4 July 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Marie Carlson was going through tough times battling her mental health when she met James and Tanya Flanders. James, who was the pastor of a local church, took Marie in and began helping her pay her bills and eventually allowed her to move in with him and his wife. All seemed to be going well… that is until Marie became pregnant. Rumors circulated about whose baby it was, but eventually, the truth came out. James, Tanya, and Marie were in a polygamist relationship, and the baby was his. After baby Grace was born though, things started to go downhill. Marie no longer liked the arrangement they had, and she wanted out. But rather than let her walk away, James did the unthinkable.

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome and welcome back to True Crime with Kendall Ray.

0:10.5

Thank you so much for joining me today and if you are new then welcome, so happy to have you.

0:15.2

So today guys, God, we have a pretty wild case. I mean the details in this one truly shocked me. It is just hard to put in a

0:26.8

words. I mean it's really unbelievable. We're gonna be talking about a mother who was just really trying to get her life back together when she ended up coming

0:38.0

across the wrong people. She really trusted them as strangers who were trying to help her and it ended up turning into a what they called a thruple situation and how this all unfolded.

0:51.6

Yeah, it's just mind-blowing and incredibly sad.

0:55.0

We're going to be talking about the murder of Marie Carlson.

0:58.8

Now, this one really could have gone unsolved. I mean the guy who did this absolutely in my

1:05.7

opinion could have gotten away with it. It took a couple years to catch him but

1:09.0

thank God they finally did. Marie deserved so much better than what she got in the end of her life and I have so many thoughts so I just want to go ahead and jump in not waste any more time because there is quite a bit to go over here. So let's start with more information about Marie. Marie Jane Carlson was born on October 7th, 1974 in the Philippines to a single mother, but she was taken in by an American man who ended up raising her in the United States with his other children.

1:36.8

And really right away Marie formed an extremely close bond with one of his other children, Esther.

1:43.1

And deep down, the girls always felt like they were sisters.

1:47.0

And I'm sure a lot of you can relate to being so close with someone,

1:50.5

maybe a friend, that you feel that your sisters, and that's definitely how they felt.

1:56.3

But turns out they actually were sisters.

1:59.5

After a few years of Marie living with them, their dad revealed that he was actually Marie's biological father as well,

2:06.5

which they were super happy about. I'm not sure exactly why that was kept secret. I mean people have their reasons I guess but once they

2:16.7

found out and it was confirmed that the feeling they had always had that they

2:20.3

were sisters somehow was because they actually were was huge for them which obviously finding this out just made them that much closer and they were so close in fact that when they got a little older they ended up moving into an apartment together that was behind a karaoke bar

2:36.0

which was a major score for them because that's one thing you should know about Marie.

2:40.0

She loved karaoke which I love learning about her because I also think karaoke is really fun.

2:45.2

I feel like I haven't really done it in my life, but it just looks fun.

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