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Welcome to the latest episode of the Shamrock.

I'm Pete Sampson, joined as always by Matt Fortuna and special guests on our Monday show, Prevying Michigan.

Nick Baumgartner covers pretty much like all things football in the state of Michigan.

Not just Michigan, but Michigan State and the Lions as well.

But Michigan takes up a lot of

oxygen right now and sort of always has, as I can attest as someone who grew up in the state.

Nick, thanks for coming on the show and doing this. And I guess it's like jumping into

Saturday night, weird game. I sort of took that in from a distance in California while I was

working on a different story. I saw they were down 21-0 and then was able to see the very end of the

game. Kind of a weird game to process, it sounds like, based on reading your stuff from State

College. How did you sort of take Michigan,

Penn State on Saturday? Yeah, it was strange. It was different. And that's why it was a little

complicated, complex, whatever you want to call it, in that, you know, it was, there's two sides

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