Welcome on into the Wolverine.com podcast. Clayton Safie here with Anthony Broome. We have a special

addition with a very, very special guest today. We're going to dive into all things, Michigan's

partnership with passes. Everybody saw it last week, you know, started last Friday. It was the

official launch, but we will dive into it with the CEO and founder, Lucy

Guo, who is a superstar in business and entrepreneur.

She founded Passes in 2022, also Backend Capital, went to Carnegie Mellon, but is a michigan fan as evidenced by the shirt

she's wearing right now she's been recognized on the Forbes 30 under 30 list so just all over the

place many people have heard of her obviously but now But now she's entering our world. Michigan Athletics. Lucy, so great to have you here. Thank you for having me. I'm super excited to be here. I just wanted to start here, too, because I mentioned some of the things you've done, but obviously there's way more than that. Take us through your background in business and entrepreneurship and how

all of that led you to passes, which is now kind of blowing up here and bursting out of the scene.

Yeah, definitely. It's actually a very long story. So I'm going to try to make this short.

I've been interested in entrepreneurship since I was younger. I actually

got set to the principal's office multiple times in kindergarten for trying to start my own mini

businesses and selling like Pokemon cards, Ugo cards, colored pencils, etc.

Move on forward to like high school. I was building internet marketing tools. I was selling

like these hacked game boy games on eBay, et cetera,, etc. And then I ended up dropping out of college.

I received $100,000 from the founder of PayPal to attempt to go, like, start a company.

And then the first successful company I started was called Scale AI.

We work on providing the best training data to other AI companies so they can improve on

their models.

So think like self-driving cars.

We help tell them what's a car, was a pedestrian, was a stop sign on the road.

We work on a lot of government contracts, et cetera, et cetera.

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