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Welcome back to TV's top five, the Hollywood Reporter's TV podcast.

I'm Leslie Goldberg, West Coast

TV editor, and I'm joined as usual by our chief TV critic and my partner in crime, Mr. Daniel

Feinberg. Happy New Year, Leslie, and oh, what a new year it was. Yeah, we're saying that now,

but we should know that this episode was recorded before Christmas because, well, we didn't want to work over the break, so there's that. So if this episode feels a little bit different, it's because we're going to skip the headlines segment. And if we miss any big news, well, we'll get to it January 10th when we'll be coming to you from the TV Critics Press Tour in Pasadena. Better than us being wildly hilariously out of date. Just pretend this is not the most timely episode of TV's top five.

But we do have a lot of fun segments that will preview 2020 and what to expect on TV and a great

showrunner Spotlight interview.

And we will also look ahead to the Golden Globes, which as of the time that we're recording

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