Hello, Matthew Grant here. Well, we haven't had a partner's chat on the podcast for a while,

so Robert and I thought it would be kind of interesting to do one of these live and with video we're now using the Bright Talk

channel to bring you live events albeit digitally until we get back into the

steel yard so we recorded this one on Thursday the 2nd of April but we thought we

just package it up give it to you in the podcast you can also listen to it live

and you can check out what we're doing on Bright Talk with some of our up and coming events

and the details will be in the episode notes. Here we go. Well, here we are. Spot on time. So unlike some of our lively evening events when people are still stuck at the bar,

Rob and I are here grabbing your attention for our first digital partners' tour.

We normally hide behind the microphone and do this in a recording,

but we've thought just given that we're everyone sharing their faces and their uh their bedrooms these

days we would share you with some of our own particular experiences and we're sort of going to channel

the spirit of reality tv so i'm afraid you're not going to quite get uh love island here or at least

not intentionally there's anything wanders past in the background but uh we thought it'd be a good

chance for robin and i to catch up about what's going on and tell you about some of things we've been seeing. But first of all, Robin,

you're a man about town. How are you dealing with being cooped up for the last couple of weeks?

Yeah, no, I'm coming to you live from the Intertech London studios in Suffolk. As you know,

I go out at least three or four times a week. So the focus of my

life has become cooking and wine and now increasingly writing about wine. The whole day has gone

video and call like everybody else. I love Zoom. I hate hate Skype I hate looking at myself on video I was

amazed by how old and tired and fat I look and then I have a massive choice as

whether I wear my glasses or whether I don't wear my glasses and I can in the end I

go with no glasses because then I don't have to see myself, sort of much more preferable really.

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