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Breaking History

Partition’s Ghost: How Pakistan Became a Deep State

Breaking History

The Free Press

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4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Last month, two nuclear powers exchanged blows after terrorists mowed down 26 tourists in Kashmir, yet it didn’t turn into a hot war. We got lucky. But sadly, the next India-Pakistan war seems like only a matter of time.  In this week’s Breaking History, Eli Lake explores the origin story of the ongoing conflict between India and Pakistan. How did Pakistan become a true ‘deep state nation’ post-partition? And why does it really really matter? ******* CREDITSProducer Poppy DamonExecutive Producer Alex Miller Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Last month, two nuclear powers exchanged blows after terrorists mowed down 26 tourists in Kashmir,

0:07.6

and it didn't turn into a hot war. We got lucky.

0:11.9

Sadly, the next India-Pakistan war seems like a matter of time.

0:17.7

And one big reason why this conflict is not going away is because of Pakistan and specifically its military and intelligence service.

0:27.2

After the break, how Pakistan's deep state betrayed its people and betrayed its patron.

0:33.0

The aid will fall and back labellible.

0:41.3

The part you got this next year's model Lee Harvey I'm Irving Berlin

0:45.3

What happened once happens again

0:49.3

When news up is a mystery

0:51.9

To cut out again

0:53.8

Been into breaking mystery

0:56.1

History

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