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Can you diggah! Greetings day listeners this is Jonah Goldberg host to the

Remnant podcast brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media.

Today we have a special return guest.

He is a political scientist.

I first met him when he was at University of Denver.

He's currently though on sabbatical as a scholar at

the at Vanderbilt University in Nashville so better music in milder winters. He's got a great sub-static called Tusk and his last book was

learning from loss the Democrats from 2016 to 2020 but his the true feather in his cap is he recently wrote, we have this new series of essays we call the Monday essay at the dispatch and he wrote for one for us about partisan realignments it was called what are we

talking about when we talk about a realignment so Seth Masgett welcome

back to the remnant and what do we mean, what are we talking about when we talk about a realignment?

Thanks so much for having me back. It's always good to be on this show.

So when we talk about realignment, unfortunately it's a term that gets

thrown around a lot when there's an election approaching like people will

perceive some shift somewhere, you know see some group of voters that isn't voting like it usually does and they want to make a story about it.

And what I try to get into in this piece is that what we think of is actually like big realignments you know where you

actually have like a substantial shift in who belongs to one party or another or

what issues the party's. Those are very rare. The example I start within the

piece is like you know from the 1850s when you know at the beginning of that

decade you have like two major political parties in the country of the Whigs and the Democrats and

and they're divided mostly on issues of economics and economic regulation and over the course of that decade slavery becomes an increasingly

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