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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

Hedging Hezbollah

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2024

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

Team Remnant has a gift for ye loyal listeners: an entire episode where Donald Trump and Kamala Harris go unmentioned! (Almost...) Jonah is joined by Kenneth Pollack, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, to discuss the increasingly tenuous conflict in the Middle East. Ken makes the case that accusations of total war between Israel and Iran are blown far out of proportion, inevitably leading Jonah to throw a small tantrum and predict worst-case scenarios. Later in the episode, Ken and Jonah discuss the future of Hezbollah following Israel’s pager attack, Iran’s nuclear status, and the role of the U.S. in ensuring deterrence in the region. Show Notes —Ken’s Monday Essay for The Dispatch —Ken’s piece in Foreign Affairs —The Dispatch’s October 7 commemoration —Jonah’s LA Times column —Get your Dispatch Summit tickets! The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including Jonah’s G-File newsletter, weekly livestreams, and other members-only content—click here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Oh, that is a

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a-hoo!

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Oh!

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Oh,

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... Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention?

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Can I please have your attention?

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Daniel Jiggas! Geega! Geegga! Greetings dear listeners, this is Jona Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast brought to you

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by the Dispatch and dispatch media as is our

0:34.5

want in times of maximum acid entity and rank punditry we like to counter

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program from time to time and talk about things that matter that you can actually discuss

0:46.6

reasonably and one of my favorite people to do that sort of thing is Ken Pollack

0:51.4

my colleague at the American Enterprise Institute.

0:54.3

He's a senior fellow there,

0:56.2

Specializing Foreign Policy, Middle East.

0:58.4

Iran, he's an Iran expert.

0:59.6

He's written some excellent books on Iran.

1:01.0

We'll put all that stuff in the show notes.

1:03.4

He's had some affiliation with some three-letter agencies.

1:07.2

He would never want his generals to be like Hitler's generals.

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So with that, Ken Pollack, welcome back to the remnant.

1:13.4

Thank you so much for having you back, Jonah. It's always a pleasure to be on the

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