Hi, I'm Myambialik.

I'm Jonathan Cohen.

And welcome to part two of our conversation with scientist and health educator Dr. Rhonda

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mitochondrial metabolism. We're going to talk about so many different aspects of nutrition and also things that you can avoid to keep yourself optimally healthy in part two of our conversation with Dr. Rhonda Patrick.

Break it down. I have a question as someone who happens to be vegan, but I think it's a question that everybody wants to have your answer on. What's up with

protein? Like, are we getting too much, which is what many of us have been told? Like, chill out,

don't worry. Like, you're getting protein. There's protein in pasta. There's protein in rice and don't

freak out. Then we went through a phase of like Jonathan eating his body weight and protein twice a day,

there was a huge emphasis, especially among, I heard it among like men, of like all the protein,

all the meat, also add creatine, like eat collagen, like be a hunk of protein.

What's the story with protein and what is the perspective for women versus men? Is it a similar conversation? I need to know.

Yeah. No, it's funny. There's been, you know, in the aging field, which is where I'm sort of in, it's also been this thing where for the longest time, well, you don't want too much

protein because that's going to accelerate aging. It's going to increase cancer risk. And this is largely done in animal studies, like rodents. And so, and there's lots of mechanism work there. And so, you know, you're kind of thinking, oh, well, protein's aging you. That's because it's activating growth pathways,

and that's involved in cancer. And, you know, so you want to kind of dial back on the protein. This is also animal-based protein, correct? A lot of these studies were animal-based protein,

because most countries that, you know, get enough protein are actually not getting it from animal

sources. Yes. So. Except the United States.

Animal-based protein has a high concentration of essential amino acids, particularly

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