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Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Part Two: The Dutch Resistance: The Ice Cream Parlor and Jewish Boxers

Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

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Society & Culture, History

4.7902 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Margaret continues her coversation with Caitlin Durante about the rise of the Dutch Left and the early Jewish resistance to Nazis.

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0:27.6

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0:29.2

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0:34.9

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0:41.2

Hello, and welcome to cool partisans who did partisan stuff.

0:46.4

I am your host, Margaret Kiljoy, and we are talking about the Dutch resistance.

0:47.7

And who is the we?

0:50.3

Well, I have a guest.

0:52.2

It's not a royal wee thing.

0:57.8

I have a guest named Caitlin. Hi. How are you? Hi, I'm back. You know,

1:03.9

I'm still pretty bad on account of the world, but I'm happy to be here right here right now with you learning about the Dutch resistance. Honestly, I care about all of the subjects that I research equally.

1:12.6

But diving into this is like done my brain, a world of good.

1:16.7

Maybe in the end a world of bad, but I think a world of good, just being like, you know what?

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