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Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Part Two: SHAC and Modern Protest Tactics

Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

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Society & Culture, History

4.7902 Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Margaret continues her talk with Shuli Branson about the international campaign to end a notorious animal testing lab

Sources:

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Puppy Killer, Leave Town, Jon Hochschartner
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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

Cool Zone Media.

0:09.3

Hello, and welcome to cool people who did cool stuff.

0:11.7

Your weekly reminder that we all like animals, just to different degrees.

0:16.3

I'm your host, Margaret Kiljoy.

0:17.8

And with me today is my guest, Shulie.

0:20.7

Hi, I'm here. Hi, I'm doing it all right.

0:23.7

I'm really happy to be here, even though there is some bad stuff in this. That's true,

0:28.6

and there's going to be more bad stuff in this, and it's going to be fun. Our producer is Sophie,

0:34.8

hi, Sophie. Hi, Sophie. Hi. And this is part two of a two-parter that probably should have been like an eight-parter.

0:42.7

This is the kind of thing that honestly, like, one day I'm just going to switch for a true crime format and shack and animal rights stuff at the turn of the century.

0:50.4

Easily a whole season of all kinds of ins and outs of things. But that's not what I'm doing here.

0:56.3

It's a two-parter. We're on part two. So where we last left our plucky heroes and anti-heroes

1:03.4

and various combinations, they had just shut down a dog breeding facility that mistreated dogs

1:09.6

and sold them to animal rights place that had an animal rights place, an animal testing place,

1:15.6

that has had a lot of evidence against it being very bad to animals.

1:18.6

And then they went and did a very similar thing to a cat.

1:20.6

And they did that partly by doing something that I don't think is great.

1:23.6

And I was thinking about this while we were on break.

1:26.6

I mean, while two days passed, because it's obviously two days later, here we are on Wednesday.

1:30.9

You're listening to this live, no matter what time you're listening to this, no matter what year.

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