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Behind the Bastards

Part Two: From Elliott Rodger to Clavicular: The Story of Incel Evolution

Behind the Bastards

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History, News, Society & Culture

4.417K Ratings

🗓️ 12 March 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Robert explains how incel terminology met the social internet, particularly reddit, and became tied inexorably with Gen Z slang.

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0:00.0

QuarZone Media

0:02.8

Oh, welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast about in cells, or at least that's what we're talking about this week, the pipeline that led us as a society from Elliot Roger and the Ila Vista shooting in 2014 to clavicular and the trend of looks maxing,

0:24.2

which includes hitting yourself in the face with a hammer to get hotter.

0:27.8

We'll be talking about all of that and explaining the rest of it.

0:30.7

But first, let me reintroduce my wonderful guest for these episodes.

0:35.9

Kat Abugazela.

0:37.1

Kat, welcome to the show. Robert, thank you so much for having me. How you doing, Kat? Are you running for something? A marathon, right? Yeah, there you go. There you go. No, I actually haven't worked out since I launched my congressional campaign, which is what I'm running for. So anything beyond the flights of stairs it takes to get to my apartment wins me.

0:57.4

I'm so weak now.

0:58.8

But only physically, mentally and spiritually, we're strong.

1:02.7

But yeah, I'm running for Congress in the 9th District of Illinois.

1:05.8

So if you are in the Chicago area that goes from uptown, up to Evanston, over over to Skokie and then all the way to

1:12.2

Crystal Lake and Algonquin election day is March 17th. You can find my website at catforilinois.com.

1:18.4

That's cat with the K. We are a progressive populist campaign. That's the only one in this race

1:25.6

supported by majority small dollar donations of the three most viable candidates in this race. I'm the only one in this race supported by majority small dollar donations of the three

1:28.4

most viable candidates in this race. I'm the only one that hasn't met with APAC. And I also have

1:32.9

an orange cat named Teeter. Yeah. And if everyone's really good, I'll bring her on camera.

1:37.0

You're also the only person we have ever had as a guest for this show who is actively like

1:41.3

running for office. You know, this being what it is, it's not a thing

1:47.2

we normally do, but you have been a friend for quite some time.

1:51.1

And before you started running, I've always respected your work as a journalist and as a

1:55.6

researcher.

1:57.3

And if anyone's going to be in Congress, I would prefer it be you. Thank you. As we all know, electoralism is the only way to get out of this. It's the only thing that we do. Nothing else will fix this. I thought you were going to say the only guest under federal indictment. And then I was like, that can't be true. No, I feel like we've had more than one. Hilarious, hilarious. We had Chelsea Manning on the show.

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