This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed Human.

CoolZone Media.

Hello, and welcome to cool people who did whatever the name of the show is.

Cool stuff, which is a terrible thing for me to forget, because everyone who ever talks to me at a party says that they love my podcast.

Cool people who are doing good things,

or some incarnation, something like that. I am your host, Margaret Kiljoy. I know the name of my show.

I also know that my guest this week is Dana. Hi, how are you? Hi, good. Thanks for having me.

Yeah. Before I do anything else, I have to say that we have a producer

named Sophie who's not here right now. But we also have an audio engineer who's here in spirit

because is listening. Eva, how are you? I mean, hi, Eva. I need to eat sugar or something.

Or maybe I don't. Sometimes people can tell when I like, I don't drink caffeine

and every now. And then when I'm like driving or something, I drink a little bit of caffeine.

And then when I show up places, I talk completely differently.

Like, have you been on the coffee?

Yeah, exactly. So, this is part two of a two-parter of Diogenes of Sinope, just Diogenes.

Every other Diogenes is Diogenes something, but he's...

He's the original.

He is.

He's the main one we remember.

And the most famous image of Diogenes is that he lived in a barrel.

But barrels didn't exist, so he didn't live in a barrel.

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