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Hello, Giovanna here. This, the second part of my interview with Ashley Kane in Sofia,

Forogy. If you haven't heard part one of this interview, you might want to listen to that first.

And just a quick warning, this episode contains discussion about childhood cancer.

At the end of part one, Ashley and Sofia had just told me that their baby girl, Azalea,

had been brushed into hospital. So we're obviously in the hospital. And we didn't know what we were

going to get told, but from the kind of aura and the persona of the doctors around us, we kind of

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