Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims,

whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering, how is this even real?

I use my experiences in law enforcement, corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts.

Some so evil, many feel they are unspeakable.

Warning, unspeakable is intended for mature audiences.

If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl.

Listening discretion is advised.

Hey, y'all, it's KJ here back for another outstanding episode of Unspeakable.

And we're just going to have to bow our heads right now in prayer.

Because as you know, because you've been listening to this series I'm doing on this Karen Reed trial,

this has been all over the place. If you followed any of this before I'm telling you the story,

you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you haven't followed it, hold on to your butt crack because now we're about to do some ziggin and some zagging and some bobbing and some weaving.

Okay? So get your running shoes on, get a helmet, whatever you need, because this is about to go everywhere. All right. So let's pray. Lord, help Kelly get through this one. Amen. All right. So let's get back into the saga of the death of Karen Reed's boyfriend, John O'Keefe. And again, this is a part three that we're on

right now. So if you have not listened to part one and part two, go back and listen so that you

can keep up with what's coming your way. But a brief recap of what we know so far from what I've

told you, John is dead. There's a huge discrepancy on how he may have gotten to the spot of his death.

Was he dropped off there and then something sinister happened to him?

Or was he hit by Karen and then she left the scene?

Either way, whatever you believe to this point,

Karen was arrested and charged with the death of John O'Keefe

on the overall belief that she had run over John in the yard of the in-law Albert's home with her vehicle.

Now, by a runover, I don't mean forward runover. I mean they believe she backed into him and then left the scene.

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