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Behind the Bastards

Part One: Thomas Thistlewood: Slave Plantation Owner and Diarist

Behind the Bastards

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News, Society & Culture, History

4.415.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Robert walks his former colleague Titi Lee through the life and times of Thomas Thistlewood, a slave owner and monster of the first order who kept a detailed diary of all his crimes against humanity.

(2 Part Series)

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0:00.0

Callsor Media.

0:05.0

Ah, and welcome back to Behind the Bastards, the podcast that you're listening to today.

0:12.3

And maybe other days, probably other days.

0:15.0

I'm Robert Evans, here to tell you about some of the worst people in all of history.

0:19.7

And to talk with us about some of the worst people in all of history is someone who's not one of the worst people in all of history. And to talk with us about some of the worst people in all of history is someone who's not

0:24.4

one of the worst people in all of history, but is in fact my friend T.T. Lee, welcome to the show.

0:29.9

How are you doing?

0:31.2

I'm good. I mean, I still have time to become one of the worst people in history, so don't

0:35.6

count me out. Yeah. If you really wanted to, yeah.

0:37.9

Like, I believe you could be a contender. No, no. It's like that, it's like that movie where

0:43.7

fucking Marky Mark becomes a pro football player by trying out. Like, I think you could,

0:49.5

you could become a dictator if you show up. If there was a competition show. Yeah, yeah.

0:54.1

I need rules. If there's

0:55.2

like a rubric, I mean, actually there probably is. I don't know if I would do well, actually, in that competition, but. See, that's, this is what, this is what, and then of these network states, Silicon Valley dictatorship people have any sense of, like, uh, fun. Because if you had, like, a reality show where whoever one got to govern

1:12.2

like three million people's lives as, like, an iron-fisted dictator, like, the franchising

1:18.7

potential for that show is incredible, especially if any of them become nuclear armed. I mean,

1:23.9

my God, you could keep people glued to the TV. Like, that's the new reality show. Yeah. Competition for who gets the nuclear codes. I mean, we might actually end up in better situation than we are now. Just give it to someone else. Yeah. I have an important question. Yeah. How's Wushu? Oh, my God. Wushu. He's right behind me. Wait, is there video on the, are you guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's, he doesn't like when he's not the center of attention as I don't know of any, wait, I feel like old days when we used to go into the, um, that big building in Hollywood to record.

2:01.0

Yeah.

2:01.4

Oushu would run around and make a lot of noise. And then I had to stop bringing him because I discovered he doesn't like when he's not to send him retention. I loved it. Yeah, that's fair. Back in the day, Anderson and who she used to hang and that was nice. Yeah. It was really nice. Yeah. He's an old doggy now. He's about to be nine.

2:17.9

Yeah, Anderson will be all of had Anderson 10 years next year, which is horrific and awesome, but horrific. I would like her to age less. Yeah. Wouldn't we all like to age less? Yeah. Fair enough. Would you, if giving like the blood of a young dog to Anderson would make Anderson younger, would you do the Peter Thiel thing with Anderson?

2:37.4

I would commit so many horrific crimes to extend the lives of Anderson. If I could extend Anderson's life longer, the amount of crimes I would commit to this. I probably shouldn't say on it on Mike, but my goodness, I would commit them. Biohacker, who's the guy who, like, is always Botoxing his penis? Brian, oh, are you talking about the guy who wants to live forever? Oh, that vampire-looking dude? They're all Botoxing. Oh, yeah. There's one guy on Twitter. Brian Johnson. Yeah. Probably him. Yeah. I feel like I wonder when, yeah, when the next dog,

3:10.8

when the dog version of that? The dog version of that. Yeah. Yeah. Because it does tend to, like every,

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