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Behind the Bastards

Part One: The Inventor of Those 'Troubled Teen' Wilderness Camps Where They Kill Kids

Behind the Bastards

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News, Society & Culture, History

4.4 • 15.7K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2024

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Robert sits down with Mara Wilson to discuss the man behind those camps that kidnap teenagers and torture them in the desert.

(2 Part Series)

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  1. The rise and fall of Steve Cartisano - High Country News (hcn.org)
  2. Steve Cartisano - Bryan County Patriot
  3. Hell Camp: The sinister true story behind Netflix documentary - Dexerto
  4. MOTHER OF GIRL WHO COLLAPSED IN DESERT PRAISES CHALLENGER – Deseret News
  5. ‘Hell Camp’: Paris Hilton and the Troubled Teen Industry’s Abuse Epidemic (rollingstone.com)
  6. How Utah became the birthplace of the once-lucrative wilderness therapy industry for ‘troubled teens’ (msn.com)
  7. BYU alumnus sparks off lucrative, controversial wilderness-therapy industry - The Salt Lake Tribune (sltrib.com)
  8. Salt Lake Tribune | 2002-04-28 | Page 2 | | Utah Digital Newspapers
  9. Loving Them to Death -- The... (utah.edu)
  10. Boot Camps Proponent Becomes Focus of Critics - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
  11. Wilderness therapy programs for troubled teams began in Utah (sltrib.com)
  12. Troubled US teens left traumatised by tough love camps (bbc.com)
  13. EXPLAINER: The history behind 'parents' rights' in schools | AP News
  14. How Utah became the leading place to send the nation's troubled teens | APM Reports
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  16. https://www.deseret.com/1991/7/24/18932325/father-sues-challenger-over-daughter-s-death/
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0:00.0

Call's media.

0:02.0

Welcome back to Behind the Bastards, a podcast where you never know if I've sent

0:09.4

Sophie the script prior to actually starting the episode like I'm supposed to. Maybe it's caught in the tube, Sophie. You remember that? You remember when that guy, that guy in Congress called the internet a series of tubes and we all laughed at them and then years later we were all like

0:23.7

actually that's not a bad way to describe the internet to be honest. Yeah yeah you

0:28.6

remember that anyway what I remember is that we have a special guest today and that guest is the great Mara

0:36.1

Wilson.

0:37.1

Mara, welcome to the show.

0:39.6

Thank you so much for having me and yeah you're right. it kind of is a series of tubes yeah yeah

0:45.3

that's more or less that's close enough right yeah yeah yeah

0:48.4

Mara you are I mean if you were a person listening to this who is roughly my age,

0:55.0

Mara was in, I don't know, about like 30% of the movies that made up a huge part of your childhood.

1:02.0

And you have recently written... made up a huge part of your childhood.

1:02.6

And you have recently written a memoir,

1:06.2

Where Am I Now, True Stories of Girlhood

1:08.9

and Accidental Fame, which has been named

1:11.3

a Best Book of the Month by Goodreads and Entertainment Weekly.

1:15.0

Mara, happy to have you on the show.

1:18.0

Thank you, thank you, yeah.

1:20.0

Yeah, I do a bit of writing and voice acting and things like that and I love it.

1:26.8

I'm lucky.

1:27.8

I've been doing things that I actually really like for a job.

1:31.6

So yeah. Yeah, that's always exciting. Yes, which yeah, which is hasn't always been the case and so yeah it's nice. Yeah now speaking of of jobs, know, I got to do the thing.

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