Just a few miles off the Thailand coast, the island of Kothau looks like a postcard.

I'd underneath the surface lies something sinister.

In the last 20 years dozens of tourists have died mysteriously on the island.

A dark cloud who's come over the island, death, mystery and danger.

Listen to death island every Wednesday on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

Dip theory!

That's a disease and I'm Robert Evans and this is behind the bastards, a podcast that's not about diseases.

It's about the worst people in all of history, who are kind of a disease on the human condition.

I couldn't think of anything else to shout at the start of the episode, so I went with dip theory.

Anyway, the show has begun. My guests today are one of our very best guests.

The wonderful, the incomparable, Lazy Moves.

Hi, I'm so happy to be here. I've been seeing you in so long, Robert.

Yes.

It has been a minute. It has been a minute. How are you doing in this year of plague and also general uprisings and also a political election and also an economic collapse?

I was in the beginning of this. I know when you say it all together.

When you talk about what's been happening, it sounds very bad.

Because the new cycle is so crazy, like that the one week where Melania was like,

oh, the Christmas. I can't do her voice, but she was like,

oh, the Christmas.

Didn't even land.

Also, Donald Trump's taxes came out the same week. Also, he got COVID.

It was like so many things happen and we were like, oh, this is just Tuesday.

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