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Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

Part One: The Banner Wars: How Dutch Squatters Fought Far-Right Immigration Policy

Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff

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History, Society & Culture

4.7902 Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Margaret talks to Samantha McVey about the motley and international assortment of activists who refused to let a fascist off the hook.

Sources:

The Banner Wars, Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness, 2005


https://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/international/europe/11-die-in-fire-at-dutch-airport-detention-center.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20051210182413/http://www.time.com/time/europe/hero2005/cohen.html

https://noborder.org/archive_item.php%3Fid=353.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/blast-damages-muslim-school-in-southern-netherlands-532504.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/14/world/europe/arson-suspected-at-dutch-mosque.html

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-height-by-country

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2005/10/amst-o28.html

https://www.onderzoeksraad.nl/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/report_fire_schiphol_oost.pdf

https://www.politico.eu/article/netherlands-right-wing-government-dick-schoof-mark-rutte-party-for-freedom/

https://apnews.com/article/migration-netherlands-wilders-asylum-38a5149bf59fad91d2368350405ba9dd

https://www.visaverge.com/news/dutch-parliament-enacts-strictest-asylum-policy-in-history/

 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

CoolZone Media.

0:09.6

Hello, and welcome to cool people who did cool stuff.

0:12.0

Your weekly reminder that when bad things happen,

0:14.8

there's little stories of resistance that slowly build up to make a better world.

0:19.5

That's my overly earnest introduction.

0:21.7

I am your host, Margaret Kiljoy.

0:23.4

And this week, I'm excited to have one of my all-time favorite returning guests,

0:28.5

a guest who has been with us since the very beginning of this show.

0:32.0

Samantha McVeigh, hi.

0:33.5

Hi.

0:33.7

Hi, every time I hear that, I always just go back to that first episode that we did and how fun, how fun-ish, because it felt like the world was dying a little bit.

0:44.7

Not the beginning, but like the big beginning of everything's ending.

0:48.8

Yeah.

0:49.0

But being on the show with you and talking about the people who did such incredible work, especially

0:57.7

in the world of abortion and reproductive health care. It felt, it was timely then, it's timely now,

1:05.7

but it just felt so lovely to hear such amazing stories. I don't know. When you said that,

1:10.5

I just brought my heart a little flutter. That's still honestly one of my favorite episodes we've done. It's for the Jane Collective. People can go back and listen to it. You are the host of Stuff Mom Never Told You. Is that correct? That is correct. Yes, I feel like I'm on trial. Yes, I am. I actually, I mean, I looked it up to double check, but since you have a podcast name that's actually similar to my podcast name, I'm very aware of how people

1:31.1

will get it wrong in very minor ways constantly. I'm one of those people. Yeah, the people who come up

1:37.1

and are like, oh, I love your show, cool things that people do. I've shortened it to cool stuff.

1:45.5

Yeah. Because it is kind of like on par with our shows, you know, which was the House

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