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PART II: A 1981 MiB Report From British Columbia, Canada

Podcast UFO

Host: Martin Willis

Astronomy, Society & Culture, Science

4.4567 Ratings

🗓️ 16 November 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles LearIn last week’s blog, we looked at a case from British Columbia that involved two witnesses who said they not only saw a UFO on the night of October 3, 1981, described as an upside-down flying saucer with its dome underneath surrounded by four lights that were in the 3,6,9, and 12 o’clock positions, but also had encounters with MiB types afterwards. The main witness, a 16-year-old who ran his own security company, Grant Breiland, reportedly took a photo that was not developed at the time of the article. The other witness, identified only as “N.B.” was a 19-year-old male who said he saw the same object. Breiland was interviewed extensively by former University of Victoria linguistics professor, Dr. P.M.H. Edwards. Edwards wrote a report that was published in the Vol. 27, No. 4, January 1982 Flying Saucer Review.When we left off, Breiland had just been confronted in the glass-doored vestibule of a shopping mall by two men dressed in extremely dark blue clothing. They were stiff and robotic, had tanned faces and lips the same color, no eyebrows, and “Eton crop” haircuts. He was scared by not only their non-human appearance, but also by the fact that there were suddenly no people to be seen anywhere, which was the case during the entire encounter. According to Edwards, they asked him what his name was, where he lived, what his phone number was, and he refused to answer. After staring at him for five seconds, they turned on their heels “as one man,” walked outside (it was raining), crossed the sidewalk to the road, went left, and walked in sync in a military fashion. Breiland followed them and watched as they walked onto a muddy, excavated field and then vanished before his eyes. He ran to the spot where they disappeared and saw they had left no footprints. Read more →

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

that it was handled.

0:06.1

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0:11.4

was so broad.

0:13.1

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0:18.2

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0:22.1

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0:26.0

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0:29.8

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0:31.7

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0:36.3

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0:40.1

the deals that capped exposure, the decisions at limited scope,

0:43.5

and the moments where prosecutors chose restraint overreach.

0:47.1

If you ever wondered why this case feels unfinished,

0:49.7

why accountability stopped at the perimeter,

0:51.5

or why so many names remain officially invisible,

0:55.6

you've come to the right place.

0:57.7

Welcome to the Epstein Chronicles.

1:15.1

A 1981, M.I.B. Report from British Columbia, Canada, part two, by Charles Lear.

1:21.4

In last week's blog, we looked at a case from British Columbia that involved two witnesses who said they not only saw a UFO on the night of October 3, 1981, described as an upside-down saucer with its dome

1:30.4

underneath, surrounded by four lights that were in the three, six, nine, and twelve o'clock

1:35.7

positions, but also had encounters with MIB types afterwards. The main witness, a 16-year-old who

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