Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims,

whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering, how is this even real?

I use my experiences in law enforcement, corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts.

Some so evil, many feel they are unspeakable.

Warning, unspeakable is intended for mature audiences.

If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl. Listing discretion is advised. Hey y'all, it's KJ here back with another episode of Unspeakable. I know y'all've been rocking with me through this Karen Reed case that has to do with John O'Keefe. So hopefully by now you realize that there's a whole lot of players. I know I keep saying that. You should be pretty much having a grasp of who these major players are and how they're related. So if you're

unsure or if you like faces, maybe you're someone who likes to put faces to the people so you can

help follow along. On Patreon, I have posted a breakdown with faces so that you can look at these

people and you can kind of assess what's going on along with a million other things, crime scene photos and whatnot. So that's for your convenience and your understanding. If you want it, if not, don't look at it. Doesn't bother me. But I want to warn you before I start here that this is a part four. So if you have not listened to parts one, two, and three, this one's

not going to make sense. So please go back, listen to one through three, and then jump in right

here with us on part four. So now that I'm approaching this wrap-up of this series, I got to

thinking about baseball, okay? And I know you're like, what, what, why should you think about

baseball? Well, if you're not a fan of baseball, no worries, the point I'm going to make is still,

it's still going to resonate, I think, because now in our age of instant replays in sports, okay,

a coach can contest a call if they think the officials got that call wrong.

But here's the thing.

Whenever they're trying to see if they're going to overturn a call that's been made,

there has to be overwhelming evidence that the call that was made was wrong.

It's got to be overwhelmingly clear.

It's not that they could have got it wrong. It's that to be overwhelmingly clear. It's not that they could have got it wrong. It's that

it's overwhelmingly clear that that call was wrong. The runner that was called out at first base,

if it's a close call when they go look at that instant replay, you have to clearly see the

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