Part 5 -- Art of the Lie: Meet Trump's Most Influential Mentor Who Lied About AIDS, Death, and Everything In Between; Trump is his Mini Me
Thomas Paine Podcast
mike moore
4.6 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 35 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Federal authorities say they've skimmed millions in cash from the place. |
| 0:11.0 | They'll be sentenced next month. |
| 0:13.4 | Cohn also goes because he likes to be seen with this week's jet set. |
| 0:18.1 | Once in a while, he'll escort a model, but New York's matchmakers have given up on it. |
| 0:22.6 | He's just not the marrying kind. Though at one time he says he and Barbara Walters almost got married. |
| 0:29.6 | Barbara won't comment except to praise Roy for his loyalty. |
| 0:34.6 | We're getting married when we're both 60. I must say in fairness to her, she disagrees with me politically like about |
| 0:43.3 | 100% because she's far more liberal than I am in practically every area. |
| 0:48.3 | Why haven't you gotten married? |
| 0:49.3 | I always felt that being a controversial person and being a person that people are always |
| 0:55.0 | going to be fighting about and over and always destined to be always in some kind of battle |
| 0:59.6 | or other, that I could go through it better if all I had to worry about was myself, not |
| 1:05.2 | a wife and kids who are going to have part of the heartache pushed over on them. |
| 1:11.6 | Roy Cohn came to law with good connections. |
| 1:14.6 | His father was a gentle-mannered New York State Judge, |
| 1:17.6 | and young Roy met all the right people. |
| 1:20.6 | When I went down as Chief Counsel for the McCarthy Committee, |
| 1:24.6 | I totally broke with my own background, with my own past. |
| 1:30.1 | In other words, here I was a young Jewish Democrat from New York, supposedly the most liberal, |
| 1:37.7 | or one of the most liberal cities in the United States, going down to become chief counsel for a fellow |
| 1:42.4 | like Joe McCarthy. |
| 1:43.3 | To what extent was Roy Cohn, the Jewish lawyer from New York, |
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