Or I've guessed, I won't say we, I've guessed about it.

But, you know, until I see data and published data,

everything has to be with the caveat that, can we trust the system, et cetera, blah, blah, blah.

Well, what I can tell you is that there's still people out there that want things to be right.

Maybe the system's rotten, but within it you can find pearls of gold, right?

And people that are paying attention to what's going on.

And I think we have some of those here.

Now, there are a lot of things discussed, and I don't want to, I'm not going to go into all of them. I've offered up,

I think I, Matt, Mike, I think I left a couple of calls specifically for you, not to be

played on there because honestly, I was going through that dark night of the soul about being

right on something I did not want to be right about.

But there's a lot.

I would be happy to do a presentation or, you know, do more explanations and walk through.

And I think with an interview format would be good because when I get into talking in professors or geek talk or technical jargon, you say,

hey, hey, hey, hey, make it right.

But right now I'm going to do the best I can, keep it straightforward,

and just give you the guys a couple, three points that are what are really caught my interest.

Okay?

So the way that the papers have come out, and I'm going to give you, first I'm going to give you the way that, one of the ways that Doug Gleish has shown that he is a guy that, he's very well known, he's very well published, a solid guy. He also wrote a book with a colleague about the death of science and what's wrong with science.

So, you know, he has a self-reflective dude with respect to our enterprise.

That is, well, what I've been doing in my life.

But where he got interested in this and saw that there was a big problem or something was askew was this whole vaccine.

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