We were there. The FBI was there for 51 days. Then the last day was actually the 52nd day

after the day after the fire occurred. And every day, everything that we had, every briefing

that we did was what can we do to get this thing resolved peacefully from being, from

being nice to being forceful to trying to being something in between. What was it that

we could do to get the people to come out or to get David Krashta to surrender? In the

final analysis, everyone that we spoke to, all the so-called experts from around the country

and within the FBI, said that David Krashta was getting more violent than his rhetoric

and that this was not going to end peacefully. And unless we did something tactical to try

to end this situation, he was going to start taking measures to try to end this thing

in a violent confrontation because they believe that his ultimate goal was to get everyone

in there to sacrifice themselves for him and to kill as many government officials as he

possibly could. So the ultimate recommendation was to at least put tear gas in there to try

to force the people out, which tear gas is used every day somewhere in the United States.

I've been a chief of police and head of the highway patrol and we used tear gas on regular

occasions probably at least monthly in trying to resolve situations. So the last situation

was that at least tactically we would insert tear gas in there to try to force the people

out. The mothers would not allow their children to suffer and they would bring the children

out. What the experts did not count on was that David Krashta was willing to kill everyone

in there, immediately started. Those who wanted to come out were executed. The majority

of the people that did not come out, particularly children were executed either by knife, by

gun or bludgeoned to death to prevent the mothers and the children from coming out. They

also lit three simultaneous fires inside the facility to sacrifice everyone in there. I've

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