He had a restaurant in New York and I visited very often.

I liked it.

It was good food and I became fond of him and that was the extent of my friendship with him.

Okay.

And you were aware undoubtedly that at some point in that Westchester incident, he was convicted of...

Yes, I'm well aware of...

...not reporting some of the income that you received.

Mr. I'm well aware.

From what you've said to us, I would conclude that it would be your testimony that you received then no illegal money from any means.

I have never in my life, sir, received any illegal monies.

Okay.

I have to work very hard for my money, thank you.

And you didn't knowingly aid and abet the circumstances that were going on at the Westchester, at least with your knowledge.

That's correct.

Okay.

Did you ever attempt to influence the testimony of any defendant or witness?

No, sir. And I would refer particularly to Mr. Pacella. The answer is still in the negative? Oh, yes, sir. I mean, yes,

so the answer is in the negative. Yes. Mr. Pacella on trial was asked by the Assistant United States Attorney, and I quote,

By way of background, do you know an individual by the name of Frank Sinatra?

Mr. Pacella invoked his Fifth Amendment rights at that question, and Mr. Pacella was subsequently

granted immunity and notified his answer could not

be used against him. But yet he still stood on his Fifth Amendment privilege not to discuss

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