Yeah, and I was asking you about it because, but, you know, the YouTube podcasting is totally different than, you know, audio podcasting on Apple.

There's two different markets, two different models.

So I was asking you, oh, why aren't you over there?

And you're like, dude, I'm not even going to attempt to waste my time trying to put stuff up at YouTube, you know and we used to deal with it but if you want to

go over there and censor yourself and you'd have to create two shows you know one show for

youtube and one show for your regular audience would be a total waste of time yeah i mean so they

they they own you know they they literally um mean, they, it's like a conglomerate, pick, pick a company, pick a whatever, billionaire.

They own the landscape.

It's very hard to carve out anything here.

And when you do, they say, hey, wait a second.

You know, these numbers are getting a little out of whack we got to put this son of a bitch in their place it's really something else right it's against

real real truth tellers cannot make it controlled air quote quote, truth tellers, they can make it on these

platforms.

But anyone organic trying to grow an audience that really want to know this information, how do

they find it?

Because anyone doing a decent job doesn't stand a chance of making it on the bigger platform.

And look what Apple.

What has Apple done to you, Dustin?

Oh, I mean, well, I mean, Mike's experience, from what I can see, everyone's experiencing it,

the matter who their podcast indicator is,

whether it's megaphone or some of the other companies.

But have you experienced it, Mike, where when people are listening to your show,

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