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come true. You know see I can't say we've had a whole lot of people reach out

to us and say that they want to live in a van down by the river.

I can't begin to really.

I thought there's a waiting list.

I don't know.

There's people that have inferred it by, you know,

they just kind of that look that says,

I want to live by that river in a van.

But I think a lot of entrepreneurs, by default,

are going to lose if they don't get this topic.

A lot of people who are running nonprofits and churches,

you're gonna end up shutting the church down,

shutting down the ministry, shutting down the business

if you don't get this next concept.

And that concept is you have to know your break even point and your goal achievement point.

So see I'm going to start with you then I want to get Pastor Brian's take on this.

If I'm listening right now and I run a church and I've just been choosing to turn a blind eye to what it costs for my

organization to just break even and then what it costs for me to achieve our

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